"Because Dad was the oldest in his family, he had to go to work at a very early age. I think he went through the eighth grade. I think that was all that Mother did, too was went through the eighth grade, and that's just the way it was then. After that you went to work. And since Dad was the oldest, he had to go to work to help take care of the rest of the family.
I think he just started at the railroad and just stayed there and worked his way up. He was a boilermaker, a boilermaker foreman, I think."
From an interview with Norma Gutke Ellis at her home in Salt Lake City, Utah on 9/25/2005. Interviewed by Dennis Gutke, Norma's nephew, and Dennis's daughter, Deniane Gutke Kartchner.
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